Security and protection
Posted by Kathy Bill Gifford on February 27, 1999 at
08:45:58:
Hi There, I would
first like to thank Barb & Ron for this website. Not only is it
very informative,
and a joy to read. My wife & I are seriously considering going
fulltime RVing, and
have searched the web high & low for every scrap of
information available.
{like this is possible} We are being provided a ways and
means of the ability
to soon retire. I am fearful of living on the road to be
honest. What with
crime and such as it is today. I recently purchased two
handguns, something
I thought I'd never do. Yet in my mind, I need these for
self-protection. I
am also looking into the purchase of a GPS system as not to
get lost out there.
The country is a big place, with lots of wrong turns
anticipated. My #1
fear is getting everything stolen from me, and being left
roadside without.
Anyone have any such experiances? Lets talk about it. I'm
sure it's not all
sun & roses!
Posted by Barbara Hofmeister on March 08, 1999 at 01:04:11:
In Reply to: Realistic Concerns
posted by Kathy Bill Gifford on February 27, 1999
Hi, I am glad that
you like our site, but you will really get a lot more out of our
book. One of the things
you will get out of the book is that it is not, I repeat,
NOT a jungle out here.
We feel safer here in campgrounds and on the road
than we ever did in
our house. In the four years (before we started full-timing)
when we lived in a
modest complex of town houses, condos and apartments
we were broken into
twice. Never once, in ten years on the road, have we ever
been the slightest
bit afraid or worried. We never lock the doors at night. Who
in their right mind
would want to enter an RV when there is only one door.
Crooks like two or
more doors. They don't want to be trapped. Bad guys
don't like witnesses
either and when we are parked only a few feet from the
next RV, that means
an audience. Come on. Relax. And what is the big deal
about getting lost.
That is part of the adventure. There are lots and lots of
wonderful sights and
many might surprise you. A little town off the beaten path
that no one else would
find is fun to discover. We have been lost but never in
trouble. I'd say leave
the guns at home and relax. And get our book. It will
open a lot of doors
for you. Barb
Posted by Tom Phillips on March 22, 1999 at 13:13:50:
In Reply to: Re: Realistic
Concerns posted by Barbara Hofmeister on March 08, 1999
Hi, I may have posted
some comments along these lines in the wrong spot on
this website. I repeat
again. I read your book, and also like the site. However,
since I've traveled
all over the U.S. (on business) I rarely see a RV park
(Federal ones excepted)
that looks safe. Yes, you have neighbors close to you,
but many many RV parks
seem like one big uninviting parking lot, in a section
of town no one would
want to even get gas in, it seems. Also, many of the
GOOD looking Parks
in good locations, I've been told, are booked most of
the time. So, if you
are traveling and get lost in that small town, where do you
park your rig? Many
small towns don't have RV facilities, so what to do? I
agree, you don't need
guns, but finding a place that appears good is often
difficult. I think
someone should write a whole article on how to find and judge
a safe place to park
when you are traveling on those so called, back roads, and
need a place to stay.
I'm very keen on RV'n but still have these kinds of
questions.
Posted by george on March 23, 1999 at 06:01:29:
In Reply to: Re: Realistic
Concerns posted by Tom Phillips on March 22, 1999
Tom, My family and I have
traveled rather extnesivly in this country for nearly
30 years. We have
stayed in some lousy parks years ago. We carry several
sources of cg books,
woodalls/good sams and our personal club sources. We
belong to 4 clubs
that provide us with parks. We have never stayed in a park
that we considered
unsafe. We did once stay in a park that the rules were not
enforced and we were
up most of the night listening to loud noises from the
neighbors, we moved
the next day. We are not necessarily the most open sorts
of folks, we enjoy
our own company rather than engaging in local park
activities, altho'
we are trying to change, as we beging our fulltiming years. But
never have we stayed
in those places that you describe, Im not saying that they
aren't there, its
just that we dont stay in large towns, that might be where they
are. We prefer to
follow the 'blue roads' and see the smaller towns. I hope that
you become more comfortable
with your travels. Try some of the books, yes
they are also sometimes
misleading but are in the majority, correct. george
Posted by Barb Hofmeister on March 27, 1999 at 00:35:12:
In Reply to: Re: Realistic
Concerns posted by george on March 23, 1999
George, Thanks for
your posting. So many write that they are worried about
the safety of this
lifestyle and it is good to hear what we preach from someone
else who has been
out there. And don't you agree, you don't need to make a
reservation a year
ahead of time to get into these beautiful parks? See ya down
the road. Barb
Posted by Dave Jenkins on March 24, 1999 at 11:32:10:
In Reply to: Realistic Concerns
posted by Kathy Bill Gifford on February 27, 1999
Among other personality
defects, I'm a certifiable "gun nut". The advise about
joining the NRA is
good, in my opinion, but not good enough. There are
several considerations
when considering what you're anticipating. When I'm
asked, "What kind
of gun should I get for ****** (whatever reason)?", my
response is usually,
"What kind of safe do you have?". And I'm not just being
flippant about it,
either. Most the crime committed using a gun is committed by
a criminal. Most criminals
cannot legally buy guns, and that leaves limited
options for them.
Like stealing yours. The manufacturer of our 5th wheel
offered a safe as
an option. The price was outrageous, and I paid it. Another
issue is the differing
state laws. Some recognize your RV as your home, some
don't. There are several
books on the subject, and it's a good idea to arm
yourself with knowledge
as well. You better know when you can and when you
can't shoot the bad
guy. And if you're not willing to shoot and kill somebody
and live the rest
of your life with the consequences, then don't lie to yourself
and say you have your
guns for "self defense". And last but surely not least.
Play with your toys!!!
Get comfortable using the guns. Take safety courses and
then get involved
with some club that sponsors some kind of action shooting
sport. When you're
under the stress of being confronted with a bad guy, you
will not have time
or the presense of mind to think about what it is you're
supposed to do, and
whether it's legal for you to do it. If you'd like to pursue
this discussion, I'd
be glad to share additional thoughts, experiences, and
resources with you
"off line". Just e-mail me. Dave
Posted by Jim Cusick on March 26, 1999 at 12:23:03:
In Reply to: Realistic Concerns
posted by Kathy Bill Gifford on February 27, 1999
To the Giffords: I
too have traveled with my family and really never got lost
although, there were
several times that I was not sure where I was! I had my
kids with me and also
by ourselves. I am now a retired State Trooper and can
tell you, I agree
with Barbara, I felt safer traveling than at home. Being on the
road and getting lost
is part of the excitement and adventure of discovering our
great world. We have
found that by stopping at local police departments and
Chamber of Comm. offices
they will tell you the good places to stay. Some
may even give you
a local farm or non campground places. These are the best
of all. This is an
adventure you are going on ENJOY IT - DON'T WORRY
YOURSELF INTO AN ARMED
CAMP!
Posted by Vickie on April 04, 1999 at 23:59:58:
In Reply to: Realistic Concerns
posted by Kathy Bill Gifford on February 27, 1999
I have a hand gun
that I purchased and learned to use when I rode for the
Sheriff's dept. as
a mounted police. I am debating on whether to take it along
on the road when we
start fulltiming in the fall of 99. I don't think we will have
any problems as far
as safety as we have have camped for years and never
encountered a problem.
I'm glad to see this subject come up though because
I'm not sure what
to do. I also have read that you can get into trouble crossing
boarders of different
countries with a weapon. Do you say you don't have one
and hope noone checks
and finds it or admit you have one and have it
confiscated? Any comments
on this would be appreciated. This will help me
make up my mind about
taking it or not. Thanks for the help Vickie
Posted by Elmer Engroff on April 25, 1999 at 14:11:31:
In Reply to: Realistic Concerns
posted by Kathy Bill Gifford on February 27, 1999
Kathy and Bill, I'm
not fulltiming yet, planning on Dec 2000. First watch the
laws on taking hand
guns across State lines, I carry a 12 gauge pump. Went
thru a couple of semimors
and they all tell you if you are not willing to use the
gun then don't carry
one. I have stayed at State Parks, Commercial
Campgrounds, Coast-to-Coast,
State rest stops, truck stops, K-Mart parking
lots, you get the
picture. We have never been bothered by anyone. We try to
set up around others,
yes even in K-Marts parking lots (always ask permission
first) I have found
that if you stay at campgrounds, it is like being near your
family, never a bother
but always there for help if you need it. Next, we travel
with a lap top computer,
while on the road we use GPS, sure makes life easier
to find your way around.
We use both STREET ATLAS USA, AAA MAP
AND GO, and PHONE
SEARCH USA, all by Delorme. Hope this helps.
Elmer and Sharon
Posted by Rich Emond on February 23, 1999 at 12:00:52:
What do full-timers
do to protect valuables in your coach when they have to lay
it up for a few days
for service? I hear that lots of folks stay with their RV and
go off touring while
the RV is being worked on and then stay in the RV on the
service facility's
premises until the work is done. Have you experienced any
problems with theft
of items in the coach? Do you take all valuables with you,
which could be a bit
much. I'm not necessarily talking about jewelry, but there
are other items of
value, digital camera, video camera, maybe some jewelry,
CDs, maybe a nicknack,
etc. Just curious as we get close to full-timing.
Thanks. I guess this
question could apply to part-timers who put their RV in for
service, but I would
imagine most valuable stuff is brought into the home when
the RV is not in use.
Peace, Rich
Posted by Laura Reeves on March 02, 1999 at 11:49:11:
In Reply to: Protecting
Valuables posted by Rich Emond on February 23, 1999
We are presently "camping"
in a service center parking lot and don't feel any
threat of items "disappearing".
However, each day before turning our RV over
to the mechanics we
place our valuables out of sight in cabinets. Also, try to be
there when they bring
your RV back outside for the day. They never, never,
never lock up the
bays or front door and it will sit in the parking lot available for
any passer-by to open.
But we have camped in many service centers and have
never had a single
item disappear.
Posted by Barb Hofmeister on March 08, 1999 at 01:09:48:
In Reply to: Re: Protecting
Valuables posted by Laura Reeves on March 02, 1999
Ditto!!!! We have
never had a problem either and believe me, we have spent a
lot of time in service
bays. We have a lot of stuff around and out and nothing
has even been touched.
Barb
Posted by Helen on March 14, 1999 at 11:56:55:
In Reply to: Re: Protecting
Valuables posted by Barb Hofmeister on March 08, 1999
I agree with Barb.
I have worked around RVers and have never experienced
such an honest, helpful,
caring community of individuals. They cannot be judged
on the same basis
as the ones we read about in the newspapers or see on our
neighborhood streets.
RVers are a different breed than we see on a day to day
basis. I am looking
forward to getting out there with them so I will feel safer!
As a single lady,
it is pretty spooky in a city by yourself. - Helen |